ATLANTA -- Within a matter of minutes, the Spencer Strider narrative changed from: How effective might he be in the National League Division Series to how effective might he be through at least the 2028 season? For a full look at the Braves' 2022 postseason schedule, click here. There is nothing historically to say that even if they were absurdly expensive compared to other pitchers that it would even match what he was promised. The Mets only have one tool in the toolbox and that tool is green if you know what I mean. Is MLB ok with them now? The volatility is too high. Spencer Strider has played for 1 team, the Atlanta Braves. They also have a lot of money coming off the books this yr and next with internal options available to replace these players. Julio Rodriguez is still going to get a bonus pool increase in his annual pay for his All-Star game appearance, his HR derby appearance, his ROY award, and any other accolade he gets, regardless of his contract. Very much doubt it. DMC: Lol all you want, but Baez is nowhere near the hitter Swanson is. The average Plug and Play Tech Center hourly pay ranges from approximately $22 per hour for an Intern - Hourly to $69 per hour for a Partner Success Manager. Use Fried as an example who might make roughly $40 mil through arb in total. Talent evaluation, competent analysis, and a decent memory arent your strong suits. Injuries are 75% covered by insurance Its not close. Spencer Strider salary is $0 per year, including a $0 signing bonus. Swanson only played 38 games in his debut season in 2016. If he is 2nd in ROY he gets huge bonuses and STILL qualifies for Super Two. That is between 2 and 3 years. They couldve done that with a 6 year deal for $45M with a $25M option. The backend of this deal reminds me of Wil Myers, only in the sense that you have 3 years of $20M+ that start multiple years after the extension was reached. If the Braves can reposition themselves as Americas Team once again, all that peach juice will come flowing back. Cano signed with Seattle, the Mets were just dumb enough to trade for him. Id assume the player has a good argument for the latter. $43m for nothing. . Does he hit enough to play left field?
Former Clemson Tigers Pitcher Spencer Strider Makes - Yardbarker Swanson 11.2 WAR. If he got close to sniffing free agency, he would have demanded two or three times what we are going to be paying him. Hope you enjoyed this seasons episode of LOLMets Choketober and made the appropriate notation in whatever book you refer to in your user name, the book of hurt I assume. Spencer Strider baseball stats with batting stats, pitching stats and fielding stats, along with uniform numbers, salaries, quotes, career stats and biographical data presented by Baseball Almanac. If you add those up, you get $77M. Just like it wont be a collapse when the Braves get smoked in the playoffs. That earned him a six-year extension worth $75 million. Since 2020 was a short season lets take the last 4 seasons. If you dont like my reference, find a better one to contradict my point! He has not stated how much he was paid by the teams while getting picked by the MLB. Good grief. Enjoy the Braves playoff run while you whimper about what could have been for your Mutts. You are assuming that Strider wont be Top 2 in ROY voting. Spencer Strider, ATL. They still unquestionably saved on Striders first two free-agent years, provided he remains healthy. So basically they guaranteed his arbitration scale in exchange for an extra year, with an option for another year for more money. Im confident youve been subjected to it countless times. Atlanta would have a franchise-record payroll in 2023 even if the only moves made by the front office were to simply tender arbitration contracts to their eligible players. It doesnt benefit both parties, Alex A. is a moron that has signed so many extensions that even with all the great deals he got done, the average $$$ is pushing $180M after only 15 of the contracts. To qualify for the Super Two designation, players must rank in the top 22 percent, in terms of service time, among those who have amassed between two and three years in the Majors. even $50M. Acuna had a 41/37 season after he signed, and was in his way to winning the MVP last year before the injury. But for every Newcomb, Folty, Wisler,and Touki that theyve missed on I think theyre happy to trade that off with Fried, Wright, Minter, and to a lesser extent Anderson and Elder. Still waiting to see the projection where two arb years are the same, factoring in the obligatory TJ surgery. Harvey was highly regarded as top prospect while Strider was considered middle reliever until may. No respect. Of course, thats certainly not all the Braves will do this winter. Thats more than just the best rookie season ever. Youre the one who seems to be carried away w/your attempts to belittle Strider. Put those around 4m for a typical, good player, making it.$69m for Striders first 6 seasons. Corbin Burnes going into year 5, second arb season (1 year of control after 2023) is due to make $11.3M in his second to last trip through arbitration. Preferably, youd also buy out another year or two of free agency at that point, as well. The Braves made this deal on the assumption that Strider will both be Top 2 in ROY voting, giving him an extra year of service time, and Top 5 in Cy Young voting giving the team an extra draft pick. Someone mentioned Max Fried as a comparison, but Fried barely pitched his first 2 seasons in the majors, and had only a small fraction of a season in 2020, and hasnt seen his last 2 arb awards in any case. Spencer.
Braves' Spencer Strider: Sharp to begin spring training Same is true for Strider, this deal doesnt include or exclude those pre-arb bonuses. Perhaps this is me remembering Mike Hamptons contract. Spencer Strider has a net worth of $1,167,934. Geraldo Quintero, IF 8. Agreed, but they hadnt locked up any pitching long-term. Cost of living adjustments are more for your average person. By all the offensive players Im assuming youre only referring to Harris? I am sure that actuaries worked hard. While Strider was certainly pleased with the contract, the satisfaction he felt Monday extended to the fact that it appears he will be available to pitch in some role during the NLDS, which begins on Tuesday against the Phillies. He was on the major league roster all season. Genuinely curious. Legendary strawmans a better name for you. I see Grissom in the outfield with Harris/Acuna next year. Being healthy doesnt make you as good. With pitchers, it seems every one goes down with season ending shoulder, elbow and back injuries. I picked it as a horse race, with the Mets tending to fall apart thanks to an old rotation and an old team, that would have trouble down the stretch. October 28, 1998 He is likely to finish 2nd in NL ROY to teammate Michael Harris II, which means both get credited with a full year of service for 2022 regardless of whether they were brought up late or stayed on the roster all season. Typical cutoff is around 125-145 days into the season! Thats why you compare first full season and Harvey was a lot better. Riley is a good deal. Swansons on the up. For fans of baseballtradevalues.com, dont be surprised if he has negative $30M in value by 2025 when he has TJ surgery, misses a year and hes not quite as successful during his third or fourth pass through the league. He made his MLB debut in 2021 and now plays for the Mississippi Braves, Gwinnett Stripers, Augusta GreenJackets, and Rome Braves. $14M (2026) But how good is this example? He had a 5-2 record with a 4.71 ERA, allowing 53 hits, 38 walks, and 89 strikeouts. Contact doesnt increase as bat speed wains, hand eye coordination deteriorates, and eye sight worsens. He has not provided any specifics about his life, including his parents and siblings details, as well as any history linked with his youth. Strong post NashvilleJ: thanks for mentioning the agent relationship angle. @Run. Or theyre being proactive to keep future payroll in check and balanced out so they dont get caught with uncertain arbitration costs in the future. SPENCER AGUIAR. This is the first season that he has looked really good and stayed healthy. The contention window is wide open for years now. If Strider had 1.169 time on the MLB roster, then hed be a candidate for Super-Two next year, but hes got 1.003, so he wouldnt ever be classified Super-Two unless they send him down. But they have shown the willingness to lock up their young stars. Its amazing how many people are just totally willing to ignore the possibility of injury or decline in performance despite the dozens and dozens of examples weve seen. I hope he stays but it wont be the end of the world to have a glove 1st ss hitting 9th in this line up.
Spencer Strider - Wikipedia On the other hand, thats a trivial concern when juxtaposed with the benefit of having so many high-end players signed for the next six-plus seasons. Id bet serious coin Swanson wont give up the money some GM who still believes in career years will throw at him. I guess writers should just pick the Braves for ten years because they won a World Series with a 88 win season.
Should Atlanta Braves' Michael Harris II or Spencer Strider be ROY His market will drive up the price being one of the only 2nd tier options (behind pricier Boegarts, Trea Turner; Correa shouldnt opt out). If you think he deserves his contract, you are as tone-def as you are capable of catching a pun! Plug and Play Tech Center employees rate the . Look on baseballtradevalues.com, read their article on justifying Sotos value and how I criticized it before he was traded to the Padres and my calculations were almost dead on value. Balance has been restored, and that means everyone taking part in a Head-to-Head points salary cap draft may actually want to do his own thing again. This website is not directly or indirectly affiliated, associated, or connected in any way to Major League Baseball, the National Basketball Association, the National Football League or the National Hockey League. Its still a win for both player and team, but the glut of long-term deals does inflate the Braves luxury ledger more quickly than a year-by-year approach would. No, theyd be paying him much less than $40M over his arbitration years if he devolves into a 4.00 ERA pitcher., which is far from the worst case scenario for a pitcher who has only a dominant rookie year to date. They even got an opt out in the form of a cheap buyout if he crashes prior to his last year the Braves control. Get it done AA. Past that, I think all these extensions are based on the character of the player as much as talent. Then, they would have to compete against the Houston Astros, New York Yankees, Cleveland Guardians or Seattle Mariners.
Spencer Strider - Stats - The Baseball Cube | Stats and Data 2027: $20-22M. Why would Swanson get Story or Baez money? Strider has been significantly better than Harvey so far. Research when he was drafted by the Yankees coming out of High School. The Braves got a significant discount on the 2 FA years. Or 40 million a year for Max. His first full year starting he had a 4.02 ERA. Ask Trevor Rogers who faceplanted in 2022. Imo, hes got the Braves over a barrel because they have absolutely no in house alternatives to replace him. Yes a 2.67 ERA is better then a 2.27 ERA. Adding that extra year of service time will make him eligible. Early career extensions are designed to give the team a discount and especially not overpay for their arbitration years. So with that logic, lets use his first two years of arbitration to show how much of an overpay the Strider deal is because Ohtani only got like $8.5M for year 1 and 2, with him being a full-time hitter as well. That is less than average, but in line with some long term deals for FA. It's also available for football, basketball and hockey. Generally not a fan of BTVs valuations, and your comment that the site is a general reference for trade values followed by They are off on a lot of things is a solid reason why I believe the site shouldnt be used as a factual source. His current contract terms are 6 yrs/$75M (23-28) & 29 team option. Notice I mentioned that those numbers were for 7 years of Swansons production? Its called creative license. In 2020, he returned to the field and began playing as a weekend starter. If you give 7 a six year deal that takes him through his age 35 season. That wont continue. Then add in the two FA years the Braves control at $22 million each, and this deal is great for the Braves. Meanwhile the Mets toss money at aging crap. By the way, dont tell me what to I can or cant link to for reference, furthermore, people dont rewrite the same theories every year!
Atlanta Braves Give Rookie Pitcher Spencer Strider Record Extension Darius Vines, RHP 5. It seems about in the right range. They do not store directly personal information, but are based on uniquely identifying your browser and internet device. Its also worth noting that Fried might take the offer Strider just got as a giant slap in the face since hes been leading the rotation for years and won a WS for Atlanta, while Strider hasnt even pitched enough innings to qualify for the ERA title. the Commanders released Wentz in a cost-cutting measure that will save Washington $26.17 million against the 2023 salary cap. Enormous good sense like instead of his 2023 and 2024 contract only counting for $1M against the salary cap each year on a year-to-year deal, He now counts almost $15M against the cap even when hes making $1M a year. Because they didnt try to Kris Bryant him it has no bearing on his service time or his Super Two status. They are off on a lot of things, feel free too look me up, the site owner hates me for calling him out. Yeah, if he ends up being average, its definitely an overpay.
Nothing like leaning $15M/year against the cap instead of $1M by rushing to make a long-term deal with almost no chance of it showing positive value! He already missed a month due to injury. Wouldve been a massive overpay. Not sure what your point is, but throwing 100 mph doesnt mean crap for a number of reasons, one there are guys like Mauricio Cabrera:, Bruce Rondn, Henry Alberto Rodriguez:, Joel Zumaya:, Tayron Guerrero, Bobby Parnell, who have touched 103 mph and none have made anywhere near that money and all had problems turning velocity into results. Spencer Strider sets an Atlanta Braves record with 16 Ks in a game!!!!!! Like the saying goes, if dreams were horses, beggars would ride. A multi-billion dollar industry should not make 1/12 of a billion dollar decisions based on data that is significantly colored with ifs and maybes. The SPORTS REFERENCE and STATHEAD trademarks are owned exclusively by Sports Reference LLC. Seems like a good deal for both sides. Besides, theyre already overpaying him in this extension in the first place. "My goal is always to outperform any expectations," Strider said. Annoying, but stuff happens.. Good job locking up one of the top young mustaches in the game. Reward thing. Why? I think that $40M is more like $45M, So they paid him a bonus of $25M in order to obtain a 1+1 extension for $22M + $22M, with a $5M buyout. They overpaid him for his arbitration years by $12-15 million but saved like $36 million in those two free agent years. If hes just a flash in the pan, this contract will hurt the Braves badly from 2026 to 2028.
Atlanta Braves 2023 Salaries & Payroll Table | Spotrac Lets say he got 15% less than Soto, which if he continues to play like he did in 2022 is not likely, that would mean his one pre-arb year and his 4 arb years would look like this: Im pretty sure these always lean more favorably to position players. Swanson isnt as good as either of those players. PLAYER. Factor in the Braves are assuming all of the risk hell continue to pitch at an elite level for 5 straight years to top it off, which is no guarantee. Super Two means you are arb eligible a year earlier, not that you get an extra year of service time. The only IF is whether hell stay healthy and productive enough to earn the money. They might not be able to re-sign Swanson because of this deal adding $15M to the cap due to his cap adjusted salary and if they do, they no longer can pursue DeGrom or another big named pitcher. It will leave many teams overpaying for pitching and when those arms get injured, most teams will selloff because they wont be able to go to the well and sign another $30M free agent to replace their ace who is gone for 18 months while recovering from surgery. Strider broke the record for fastest to 200 strikeouts in a single season, doing so in 130 innings, two-thirds of an inning quicker than Hall of Famer Randy Johnson in 2001. To see the rest of the Spencer Strider's contract breakdowns, & gain access to all of Spotrac's Premium tools, sign up today. Practically anyone who can browse streaming TV services in the first place can do it. probably not. Product executive enabling intelligent decisions through enriching and enhancing data and delivering it in awesome products. Theyre a tight group and theyre great young men, Snitker said. If that happens, he will have 2 years and 3 days of service time. Harper sold and sells lots of tickets etc and great pr. The Braves pay their 1.66 mil per season regardless for that. 2 things: Here it is again, for your convenience. Agree MFF. Golden struck out 276 in his rookie campaign. Bogaerts took an immensely friendly deal.. Actually they did.. Youre ignoring hes going to be Top 3 in the ROY so hes going to get granted an extra year of service time. "I'm just excited that there's some security in knowing I'll be here with these guys in this clubhouse," Strider said. When hes banging 25-30 HRs, hell be at best a mid-.800 OPS, nowhere near the $40M/year people believe he will get! Mike Soroka, if he would have been extended at the same time in his career than Strider just was, would have two years of no value add to the team due to his Achilles injuries. He wouldve made around $1M per pre-arbitration year in 23 and 24, anyway. The other 5 of all these extensions are postion players at different ages and stages in their careers. From the official MLB site: To qualify for the Super Two designation, players must rank in the top 22 percent, in terms of service time, among those who have amassed between two and three years in the Majors. Makes it more sustainable to retain this core group long term. If he doesnt get a full year of service next season, it is because he sucked or he was suspended by the league for performance enhancing substances, lawsuits or criminal issues! For the fans sake, I hope ownership realizes the value of spending some money and they re-sign Swanson. Be the first one to comment on this story. Not at all. Take Ohtanis arb for an example, $30MM for next season. Also, Swanson played all 60 games in 2020 and he missed only 2 games total in the 21-22 seasons. The fact that you dont know how Super 2 works, totally invalidates your opinion. This is smart timing, no surprise from AA. As of January 2022, 23% of starting pitchers in MLB and 26% of all pitchers have had TJ surgery. in Columbus, OH 8. They tended to evaluate the Mets as having the better team, but not by a lot, but were going (fwiw) with experience and so forth. $2M (2024) Atlanta already arguably boasted the best cost-controlled core of any team in baseball over the next half decade, and adding Strider to the preexisting quintet of Harris, Olson, Riley, Albies and Acuna only furthers their case. On the other hand, a subscription to Apple TV+ is remarkably cheap, comparatively: $4.99 a month or $49.99 a year.
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