Looking at his website, and how everything came to be, he talks more about how this is what he wanted (the ministry) and not enough about what God wanted. Herdetermination to bringto lightwhat she calls her Wayne story propelled her through the events of the last yearconfronting Aarum, speaking to investigators and police and comforting other women whove been through similar experiences. Juliejust an FYIPitts birthday is the end of August. I completely agree with you. Your post is very attacking to the point of threatening. No questions have been asked about this experience. I just know that we, all Christians, are to set an example. Ive set under Pastor Pitts teachings for over 6 years now and I see him as the Billy Graham of our generation. Sorry, I do buy it. Your Welcome!! You can reach her on Twitter @gsilvarole or by email at gsilvarole@gannett.com. Other women alleging abuseat Aarums handssaidthey're not considering filing civil lawsuitsat this time. (obviously this is paraphrased) Dont be blinded by the charisma of this man. Toledo, Ohio. FRESNO, Calif. (KFSN) -- A downtown Fresno church is celebrating a win in a lawsuit against the state. Kat: Pastor Michael does not have a private jet please dont spew out ignorance you know nothing about. [16][17], In December 2015, Pitts released the album Heal The World, containing songs co-written by Pitts and featuring Israel Houghton, Sheryl Brady, The Katinas, Lucia Parker, Linda Green (of Peaches & Herb) and Bryan Popin. I think anyone looking up the good pastor should have access to some information about his past, shall we say, issues. The developer provided this information and may update it over time. It wasnt until this year that I saw (these moments)for the evil that they really are, McDonaldsaid in a recording of the meeting. There are others who have gambled everything doing far lesstell me why Pitts would be above it??? And Kathy, re: your comment: Jesus completed the law but he didnt disregard it. I suggest you read your Bible. This policy was included in a 2003document from a camp event titled The Circle CTen Commandments, and was mentioned by multiple camp staff members interviewed for this story. 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Although I find posting here quite enjoyable. Ron, being accquited in this country doesnt really mean to much. He was in town he was arrested on the day of incident. Within a year, however, she said she would go to the police to report heruneaseabout thehabitsshed seen develop betweenWayne Aarum and teenage girls at the camp. touchy touchy arent we? This number is based on the percentage of all Tripadvisor reviews for this product that have a bubble rating of 4 or higher. They are both the same because they are both sin. Peter, the father of the church, denied Christ 3 times, tried to take off the high priest servents head, David was a murder, Abrham a liar, Simeon a zealot, so on and so on. He grooms them to the point where they have noboundariesanymore. Both clearly violated in this forum. I think most people have driven when they probably shouldnt and got out of it scot free (I know I have). FYI: If you post on this forum again pretending to be Michael Pitts, Im going to personally send him an e-mail and then maybe the real Pastors attorneys can issue you a warrant. Why shouldnt a pastor live comfortable and drive a nice car? Well I amy also be surprised your a pastors wife seeing as you gossip on an online forum about other pastors wives. He is a man, after all. Sorry! I dont care that he wears a diammond ring gifted to him. Truse me Pastor Michael is not making a small fraction of that amount. Alert: Bishop Michael Pitts and other vipers preparing to strike. The USA TODAY NETWORKreached out to Wayne Aarum, his son Josh Aarum, andboard members Daryl Dekalb and Wes Aarum Jr.for comment specifictothis matter. Similarly, if anyone wants to read an article written by Josh Benton they could visit the DMNs website. CJ Mahaney, the founding pastor of Sovereign Grace Ministries (SGM), recently spoke at a conference called "Conviction to Lead 2013" at an SGM megachurch in . email me. I really believe Pastor Pitts is sincere and annoited. His final punishment: 14 days of house arrest with an ankle bracelet and a $500 fine. Can you openly talk about your concerns with other members (like the Pitts fiasco I have seen messages about)about issues in the church you dont agree with? Cornerstone is impacting the city of Toledo in positive ways no matter what you think. Michael Pitts has a church that is growing AND winning souls for Chirst, he is feeding the hungry, hes building a world class ministry from Toledo Ohio. I agree with Lily on the things that she compares with the Bible. Do you find yourself not telling them everything because they just wouldnt understand/agree? After the lawsuit against SGM was dropped, in fact, Mohler and two fellow evangelicals published a. for Mahaney, calling him our friend and a vast influence for good. The statement claimed that Mahaney was not charged with any credible, serious, and direct wrongdoing. Thus, they wrote, we, along with many others, refused to step away from C.J. Were always working on improving, thanks for highlighting this for us. Service Times: Sunday: 10:00 am Thursday 7:30 pm Let the mean rest? I dont buy it. What Cornerstone Church is doing, is beautiful and successful. Its the people on here that call themselves Christians, yet put everyone else down for their opinions that give Christians a bad name if you ask me. Of course (obviously) these are hypothetical circumstances because no one reads Bentons writing. Carolyn McDonald was one of the first women to make the Circle C board aware of her abuse allegations, in the form ofanemailonOct. 6. Where are those stories? If you tithe then you must become circumcised and if you become circumcised then you must sacrifice animals and if you sacrifice animals then you must keep the holy days etc. Im beginning to feel like Im back in High School here. Amazing. Im sure your already looking into these things but hope I helped. The vehicle stood out and was recognizable for its color, make, model, and convertible status. Man leads, but the Holy Spirit will let us know whether or not its the truth that we are being told. My reference is based upon years of experience. I didnt know that was a relatively new church to this area at the time. I pray that today would be the day of salvation for all of my imposters, nay-sayers, and those who have fewer better things to do than to chat online about news from almost 10 years ago. Thats a Christians main goal, to do what God wants. Ill pray for you Matt. In all of those years, much to the shame of its leaders, I have NEVER heard such righteous teaching. Dont waste your time or money with this church. But several of themmadethemselves known to Aarum or his boardover the years in hopes that confrontingthe issue head-on would causeAarumsbehavior to change. What I dont understand is how these modern Apostles can have all kinds of stuff while there are needs in their church. Rembember, we are all sinners. Okay. Above: Carolyn McDonald, Michelle Poulsen, Rachel Horvath, Jessica Spiesz, Ashley Scibilia, Joy McCullough. Mr. X, In this December 2020 file photo, the Rev. BTW my name is Dan. Secondly I must say its amazing how you go from wishing me luck on finding the answers Im looking for to being a complete prick. (oh, btw, for future reference, so your not emarassed again its spelled parishioner) Anyway. MinistrySafes investigation, separate from Circle Cs independent investigation, first focused onallegations of abuseat The Chapel youth groupin the 1990s. He was out of the country on half of the alleged dates. What about the scriprute that says God has choosen the poor in this world to be rich in faith. And contentment with Godliness is great gain but those that teach that Godliness is the source of gain you are to withdraw from. Read it in Timothy you simple minded Christian and do what the scripture says to do to those that preach the prosperity message withdraw from them. Go Denny!! Dont fear Pitts fear his saints? All of these memories were in the cloud of deception that Wayne had manufactured through a careful grooming process.. Circle C Ranch released its owninvestigation of the allegations at The Chapelon the Ranchs website in March 2021. His parents were raised attending church regularly. if it is true it will happen again. Around the same time,The Chapel hiredMinistrySafetoformally investigateclaimsofAarums abuse. Just as God saw fit to birth his son the first time through imperfection, he is still using imperfection to bring his Son to this generation. Nineteen others14 of them speaking on the record,including former camp staff members, their family members andpastors in the region said theypersonally witnessedAarumsactions, or heard aboutthemfrom staff or loved ones. Non the less, Free speech is allowed unless it causes the defamation (sorry for the previous quirk, spell check is a genious) of character in more than verbalized, and reserved form, or prevention of potential income. [21] In 1998, Cornerstone Church purchased one of the last gospel radio stations in Toledo. Were talking about the kingdom of God. None of the townspeople knew they were part of a scheme to rob them of their lives. FOR ALL THE MEMBERS OUT THERE I WAS CURIOUS WHAT HE SAID ABOUT THAT? People dont have problem with a church, until they see you building beyond the church structure itself. p.s. By joining, or logging in via Facebook, you accept Change.orgs Terms of Service and Privacy Policy. PS before I go. BUT ANYONE WHO SAYS, YOU FOOL! WILL BE IN DANGER OF THE FIRE OF HELL. Image: Courtesy photo . I personally was really impressed with how Pastor handled the service. He is the founding pastor of Cornerstone Church and oversees the Cornerstone Global Network, a network of over 150 churches throughout the US, Mexico, Argentina, Colombia, South Africa and the UK. [2], In June 1986, Pitts and his wife Kathi moved to Toledo to start a non-denominational church, which they named Cornerstone Church. Wes Aarum Jr. did not return requests for comment. But, I firmly believed I wasnt in a cult either.when I was involved. If you are worried about losing your standard of living because disability wont pay what your salary is you can have the church buy you a parsonage and pay for it the church can lease you vehicles. Since his last name is not pitts, they didnt know he was related to him. Im terrified of God,Schuerholzsaid in the meeting recording. There are organizations and resources to help you. Is the harvest less than the seed? Truth always outlives a lie. So I. god wont be mocked. The suit alleges that the potential additional victims are too many to be included as individual plaintiffs in the suit because SGMs leaders have cultivated an environment conducive to and protective of physical and sexual abuse of children., (Note: The lawsuit itself can be readhere, though I cannot emphasize enough how triggering and generally upsetting it is.). That thiswas what Ihad hoped for and thought that it was.. If I got fired, who was going to stand in the gap?. Defined under legal terminology, (in which I have an understudy degree in law) is most frequently referred to as a subpeona. It is obvious that the Delta incident did occur. Who was without sin Christ was! I dont believe he did a whole lot., Edward why in the world are you still at Cornerstone when you are so obviously a self-righteous bigot who is against Pastor Pitts? Example video title will go here for this video, Sentenced To Death: The murder that unsettled Arkansas. Because this was a completely separate incident and Pitts did go to counseling for the Delta incident speaks volumes about the criminal case regarding his indecent exposure. I wish Id done more, Gillis said. Ive never said I thought he was arrogant or manipulative. this is the last time Ill be visiting this page, i have more important things to do. That has been my point. she was kinda snotty! Georgie Silvarole/USA TODAY Network New York, Shawn Dowd/Rochester Democrat and Chronicle, Your California Privacy Rights/Privacy Policy. Its all about the free exchange of accurate information. Cornerstone Church exists to help people find the Father, a family, and a fulfilling future. Members are told to shut up and follow him, and believe me thats what they do. All Im doing here is making sure that people who are interested in the church have full access to information about it. However, I dont need the copy to know its true. You know how I feel about no names LOL Big Chickens!! Scandal and sin mark the head conference speakers: Jakes charges 50k for speaking engagements and has been in and out of the homosexual controversies for years now. I have been to Pastor Pitts church and seen him do AWESOME things for the Lord. Even if the girls get closure, theres a good chance that hes going to continue on spiritually manipulatingpeople if none of the truth gets out there.. We all have evil learking in our members. It is used to compel the testimony of witnesses in a trial. Thanks, and yes, I have applied for disability (though that makes me feel like a jerk) but anyway, Im just waiting right now. The warrants issued by a court normally are search warrants, arrest warrants, and execution warrants. My point is that Denny Schafer had no more right to appear on a derogatory billboard than those in the biblical account had to stone the woman caught in sin. And yes, it will all be settled out in the end. Jeffrey Swinger for the USA TODAY NETWORK. Let it go? Ferrante would sometimes linger in those secluded locations, awkwardly making conversation, to ensure someone else was present. Oh, looks like I stuck a nerve. The answer, apparently, is 7 months. Hes known for his knowledge, humor, devotion to the Lord and to His people. We believe they are telling the truth, The Chapel's lead pastor, Jerry Gillis, said in an interview with USA TODAY NETWORK reporters. The Cattaraugus County Sheriffs Office opened aninvestigation into this case in early 2021 after Norris contacted them regarding the allegations, according to police reports. Cmon, how stupid would he have to be? So if you are comforting yourself, I have a stack, well you might have a stack, but if we consider the nature and content of your stack as opposed to his stack, well, your stack looks pretty sorry and pathetic. I call it an organization because thats how he runs it. Because if it is. Based upon his preachings, the whole congregation should be multi-millionaires. ABOUT US CHURCH APPAREL WATCH NOW GIVE More ABOUT US; CHURCH APPAREL; WATCH NOW; GIVE; ABOUT US . more. McDonald, a teenagecamp staff memberwho was at the Ranch working a winter churchretreat, sobbed through a confession Aarum had spent hours prying out of her astory of watching porn when she was 13. He stands up for God every day while in the secular world. Im also curious why everone at Cornerstone who does tithe isnt rich by now. I DONT THINK ANYONE IS WILLING TO BOTHER GETTING THE DELTA REPORTTHEY WOULD RATHER BASE THEIR OPINIONS ON RUMORS. If youd like, please call our office on 419-725-5000 with suggestions. He also formed deep emotional bonds with these girls,acting as a father figure and maintaining a constant stream of intimacy and adoration, according to the women alleging abuse. Whats that called again (I dont have an understudy degree) oh yea FRAUD. If he were a real man, he would step back and let people cool off, before he started running his empire again. John: To contradict your statement, the following was taken from the article posted in the TOLEDO BLADE on Sunday, November 30, 1997. From events to our Online Campus you can all the information and resources you need to grow in your faith and connect with others. To say the good pastors problems are a media invention is hopelessly naive. (except my cousin). He was identified by witnesses along with his automobile. I am sincerly praying for all of you and I hope you all find a piece inside that would release you to the Word of God instead of wasted HOURS on the internet. Isnt it funny how when you type michael pitts into the search field of this site you get links to go and look at his books at Barnesandnoble.com and amazon.com. And I dont think that things are on the up and up at Cornerstone. He is just a man. You have never heard Pastor Michael say anything like not tithing will send you to hell. Jesus is the only thing that sends you to heaven and not knowing him is the only thing that sends you to hell. [4] In 1995, Pitts moved the Church to Reynolds Road in Maumee, just outside Toledo, with a 2,500-seat facility. so I dont sweat the small stuff. Look people, if Pitts WASNT guilty, why did he plea bargain with a sudden deal? What does that person have to offer him? Although he will likely never be as popular as he once was, with the help of friends like Mohler, he can continue to speak and earn a four-digit speaker fee. I think Pastor Pitts is very annointed visionary that was sent by God. David stood for the goodness of God toward his people. Drinking alcahol is not going to send you to hell no more than any action is. After all, they have been given the charge of teaching you the truth and will be accountable for it. 1520 Reynolds Rd, Maumee, OH 43537-1602. When a pastor resigns after his 77-church network is implicated in "the largest evangelical sex abuse scandal to date," how long does it take for him to regain the trust of his colleagues? On the surface, we know that its the promise of mega money which lures in vultures like Jakes, Long and White. And you will only know on the last day what a difference this conference made. But he saved his greatest praise for Al Mohler, President of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, architect of the conservative revolution in the Southern Baptist Convention, and the top-billed speaker at the conference. You said it best, Pastor Pitts one of great teachers of Gods word in this generation, I invite you to attend Cornerstone and see for yourself. Like I said, I cant make you think differently, nor can you make me. I did and so did my son and most of his friends. The CAC atBestSelf in Buffalo, New York brings together a multidisciplinary group of professionals to address child sexual abusein a child-centered environment. Do you feel that you HAVE to be there every time the doors are open or youll be questioned as to why you werent? He wasnt drunk. Manypeopleare devotedto the Ranch and the Aarum family, and said they never experienced or witnessed egregiousphysical behavior from Aarum. He was rather impressed by the large amounts of money collected every week and the men with guns to handle it all. We had the evidence on him, said Mr. Smith, but we would have had to bring two boys to the edge of hell to bring it out. Absolutely furious. What a joke. I WATCH PASTOR PITTS ON A REGULAR BASIS AND BENEFIT FROM HIS MINISTRY. She added that the difference between the strict rules for teenagecamp staff membersand the operational freedom thatAarum seemed to have as a senior leaderwasstark;You start to see the dichotomy of how the kids are treated and how Wayne was untouchable as far as what he was allowed to do, she said. Megachurches are usually terrible, this is no exception. Also, in regard to the Toledo Blade when have they EVER reported truth Everybody knows they make up the majority of what they print. Pitts has been found guilty ofdriving under the influence once before. Thanks-Dave. Mike Baker, pastor of Eastview Christian Church leads the church's on-demand Christmas Eve service. If anyone ever cares to chat with me, feel free to email me at jminner2@aol.com, and Ill be happy to talk with you. Id settle down on the f word if I were you. Ultimately false doctrine will lead to sinful actions, no doubt. In multiple letters and meetingsover the past year,The Chapel pastors haveimploredthe board ofCircle C Ranchtohear and consider the womens allegations. Let me just say that when you verbally attack Michael Pitts on this forum, your not attacking him anymore. Women whoallege inappropriate interactions withWayne Aarum as teenagers,manyof whom did not know each otherthen,gave nearly identical accounts ofhiscommon phrases andactionstowardthem. Several authorities, includinglocal police andthe Cattaraugus County Department of Health,have received reportsaboutAarum. It looks like we have some Christian potty mouths in here. The divine person, the Holy Spirit, was promised and sent to the early Church for empowerment in Christian living and demonstrations of God's power. Pastor John Onwuchekwa's decision comes a year after Cornerstone Church received a $175K grant from the denomination to renovate its building. You said yourself your poor.What is someone gonna do with your money anyway. and Maumee). Youve got people who are actively making excuses or running interference, but you also have a lot of people who are passive and say, I didnt do anything, or Thats not my job, Drumwright said. He said, I need you to make sure Wayne isnt touching girls or is alone withthem.In a sick way, I already felt like that was myresponsibility.. A urine test confirmed Pitts was legally drunk although he told the court he only drank two glasses of wine.
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