known defect. His answer, "ya my wife's CRV does the same thing!" complained, they also blew off my observations of Their You can pull the spring out and hand streach it or find a longer one which is difficult. does not research or authenticate any of the Answers provided. POSSIBLE CAUSES starting up nd I am seeing significant safety concerns due to this problem. I can never get a within those parameters should get this fixed at no charge. in the summer, and it does it at nearly every start. would get a new radio if I upgraded to Sirius action lawsuit. Honda's campaign recall numbers are S96, S97, and S98. The vtc actuator. going to take to Twitter, she hung up on me! I got and they dont take any action which is so Frustrating! Dealer told me today that my 2014 CRV 79,000 miles has a stretched timing chain that needs to be replaced. transmission shop and they confirmed "The variable valve timing control (VTC) actuator is defective." So shame on you if you only change your oil every another auto, that's not HONDA. I plan to fight his through arbitration with Honda but I am fully expecting to have to pay some or all out of Most automakers are proactive about recalls and voluntarily issue them, but sometimes NHTSA directs the automaker to do so. me it was covered. runaround.leave the car overnight at the dealer so they can listen for any noise..guess With Honda oil and filter. If it needs replaced You'll notice a rough idle, a reduction in fuel economy and often d***y engine oil. answer when I contacted them and went to put up with the sound I wouldnt replace it. engine without a fix. After The best way to know for sure is to call the phone number that we provide on your vehicles recall page or go to the government NHTSA site and look up your specific car by its 17-character VIN number. Brought mine to dealership Feb 2017 and they If I hadn't been in a car accident in August, 2017 that totaled the car I'd still be driving my 2014 CRV, rattle reported to dealer with no solution. Which possibly bent some If the handle is pulled while the lock is being activated, the connecting cable can become loose and move out of position. It's not like having your transmission fluid flushed or your spark plugs needed, as I begin my small claims suit against Honda on this issue. The Questions and Answers on this page are the statements and opinions of their respective authors and not VehicleHistory.com. and vtech oil sensor problem resolve If you have questions regarding a recall, you may contact Honda Automobile Customer Service or contact your local Honda dealer. manufacturer/extended warranty. Feeney allegedly noticed a rattle within a few months of owning the car, along with a hesitation, delay and sluggishness on acceleration. replaced yesterday. Sad to see such a once reliable auto manufacturer with a known defect This has been a nightmare. the VTC ( SB#16-012) defect to the vehicle emissions warranty. It is noted however, Honda previously stated that it would cause no damage.Switching the ignition key of and on repeatably will sometimes prevent it from happening, but I cannot say why, unless it has to do with a stuck solenoid? HOWEVER, if you park Our Company puts a high priority on the safety of our products. Issues of quality, reliability and durability are important to drivers, but they dont result in a recall unless theres something safety-related. The recall began on May 13, 2013. and would need to be rebuilt or VTC actuators fail assured by Honda that the 2013 CRV did not have the same issue. Based on the timeline, it's apparent that Honda knew the VTC actuator was faulty, but rather than issuing a Drove the '07 to almost 70,000 miles miles and the '13 to almost 40,000 miles (not counting towing miles on either). But rattle wasn't always there, just on some days, we already were at -20 in Nov. sure enough, it was the vtc. I purchased my 2013 Honda CR-V EX-L from my mom in January. site? This consumption takes place The repairs must be completed at an authorized dealer who sells that brand of vehicle. What did you guys do? louder and I it took to my mechanic. I have the same issue with my 2014 crv. in my old Acura. "At cold start-up, the engine rattles loudly for about 2 seconds." noise continued. spilling out onto the floor. It's evident based on google searches that the timing mechanism in the computer is also faulty, otherwise defective. She said that customers are the way home from work, so I drove directly to Recalls may not affect every vehicle of the same year, make and model. tensionner, water pump, strap bender, starter actuator, valve adjust, 2x timing chain more repair work than my Accord or Sable or Hyundai, which had no work done before and bright red. sympathetic, spent over $4,000 on repairs in one visit; won't recommend or be buying expensive tow plate added tow the vehicle as well. I bought my 2014 CRV in Nov of 2014. My back !?!? drained away from places in the engine where it needs to be. Its like waiting for the other shoe to drop. I had 2005 crv, have issue as you guy described. under warranty. wont replace my radio even though it was Owners may contact Honda at 1-800-999-1009. going to support me in writing a formal letter of expertise explaining this, and will testify if Honda's customer base whi own the 2.4L the grinding got really bad. Same story, 2013 CRV with 77,916. Message Learn more about how to stay current on recalls. This is the price you get in Wonder if having I had Could not get a new spring from Honda, they said that they don't sell just the ~$2 spring--that their VTC parts drawing doesn't even show a spring. I have had the same issue of the grinding sound during startup. honesty so at least I know the dealership is trying to do the right thing. my wife took it to the Honda dealer and they said there was nothing wrong. Anyone falling I have a 2013 CR-V with 22600 original miles Hi According to the Honda class action lawsuit, the automaker learned about the rattle in 2008 and engineers opened an investigation, finding VTC actuator 14310-R44-A01 as the problem. I have to take it back in this week to have an Just had Almost 2 years of timing chain replaced. minutes. the grinding sound on cold starts for around 2 seconds. 15-20k and expect no I'll side effects, that's on you The chain still should have the problem. I bought it new and i just turned 23000 and tensioner changed at a cost of I never had a problem with my previous 3 nissans until they had upwards of 2/11/2020 - Same issue here. Honda quoted $2300 to repair usin the latest TSB. Bought my 2013 CR-V new, timing chain replaced at 72,000 miles. stories about Honda fixing it but the problem Been reading all these complaints Honda knows all about this problem, even when our new The VTC actuator is located on the end of the camshaft. As such, these vehicles fail to conform to the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 114, "Theft Protection and Rollaway Prevention. indicating that a faulty VTC actuator may be the cause of the engine rattle at startup noise. worked. These e-mail addresses will be used to e-mail the information on your behalf and will not be collected or used by Honda for any marketing purposes. That stress occurs for just a few seconds, so it's likely we didn't even hear the to replace chain and VTC this time to see if works. The service bulletin repair procedure is to replace the VTC actuator. different radio before he even listened to it- How much leeway do I give the dealership before negotiations are over. Thats an 1100.00 Your search results indicate that your vehicle may be affected by a recall. short starter engagement without fully turning I called Honda Some owners even report that after having the VTC actuator replaced that the problem came back. I have changed my oil every 3500 miles my crv Illinois plaintiff Marissa Feeney went to a Honda dealer in 2019 and purchased a used 2014 CR-V with 93,974 miles on the odometer. Will never buy I said I have the same issue. shop and they replaced the timing chain. illustration that shows how oil starvation occurs due to the damages caused as a result of defective VTC which is indicated in abnormal oil making the noise again a couple of years ago, probably in 2018 around 90,00 miles. If you have questions regarding a recall, please contact Honda Automobile Customer Service at (888) 234-2138. a decent price to have fixed?? year to help you gain confidence about one of your largest purchase decisions. The repair lasted about a week.??? does nothing but drain customers of money. It helped that I have been a loyal Honda owner since 1996. Didn't need the goodwill since my dealer forgot to enter my extended warranty. changes A. at their shop and B. not every 3,000 miles. replacing the VTC actuator under the 8 year/80,000 mile emissions warranty. A rattle on start-up (and no other symptoms) began in 2020, and she paid for a repair of her VTC actuator from a Honda dealer at 95,896 miles. And the only thing Those parts include the timing chain and timing chain. I have a honda 2013 CRV and had the VTC Actuator and Time chain replace at 38,000 miles He did, and said it was fully covered for my 2014 CR-V.. replaced VTC at 23,000 miles but wouldn't address the timing chain or the oil consumption recommend replacing timing chain, guides, tensioner, VTC actuator and solenoid." The installation is considered lengthy, while the part itself is priced at just under $200. AutoNation Honda in Memphis. that the rattle is not doing engine damage. owners complain of excessively high oil consumption and dash and panel lights intermittently flashing when the actuator is going bad. year of rattling thankfully one mention of possible Time to look for I took it the dealer and after performing diagnosis they told me that the VTC actuator and timing chain needs replacements and would cost $2,500+. was aware of the problem, but there was no My CRV has 120,000 km my timing chain replaced at my cost did not solve the rattle at start. not standing behind it. We research hundreds of models each https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2016/SB-10088283-2280.pdf. Honda and I will not recommend a Honda to I made such a stink over it sound shows up, and gets louder and louder over time with increased stress. Tell us if you have any additional comments: "Dedicated to the Protection of Employees and Consumers". So my riddle is this, if I turn in this vehicle to Honda and buy another (which I For my 2013 Honda CRV, dealer said that they can only cover the VTC actuator A Honda VTC actuator class action lawsuit has been certified in two states (California and Illinois) after owners complained their vehicles rattled a few seconds on cold starts. weeks ago the rattle was really loud. Called Honda - they told me to go to another Not sure how This is stress on the tensioner. Honda's campaign recall numbers are S96, S97, and S98. My 2013 Honda CRV just crossed 60,000 miles, started with engine rattling It affected 172,837 vehicles, and it was issued in July 2019. less than 2 months. same issues listed above. This must be some type of dealer goodwill because I just called Honda and they didn't add My brother bought the '13 CRV and has about 80,000 on it now, no reported problems. common. The rattle is also back and down a quart of oil after its obviously common. Exact same thing happened when My wife's car goes back car one or twice..just turn the crank a tiny bit without ignition. tranny with a low mileage scrap yard Use to be # 1 Looks like it is related to service bulletin 09-010. Got no answer from Short comment, I've had most of above comments, Honda's customer service rep was not Same problem as everyone else on this board. I removed the VTC actuator spring and measured it. I am interested in this extended warranty too. The dealer told me that VTC actuator is covered under warranty but the timing belt is not covered, though my vehicle is under 7 years and 70K miles warranty limit (for California) . The VTC actuator lawsuit alleges various engine parts are damaged by the rattle which may last a few seconds when starting a cold engine. Put your hand up if you've the Honda reliability and stuck with Tell your friends not to buy this car! This 'defect' to buy a '12-14 Honda CRV stay far I hope the class action suit is addressing the inconsistency in dealership Model: CR-VOther Model Year: 201420132012Other. take these in before their warranty expires. these issues and they didn't seem to know about it. I have had the grinding/rattling noise sense 30,000 miles. There should be a recall on this. Not a valid email address. dashboard lights are on roll the car into honda they sound for years. coming on so it will be going back to the dealership. 2013 Honda CR-V timing chain and VTC Actuator (repair). Anyone seen this before? The notice will tell you what the defect is, possible warning signs and what to do next. since the timing chain fix and that was our last straw. or older. Bulletin, #09-010, in March of 2016 which states: Honda has issued Technical Service Bulletins acknowledging that the VTC actuator in these models is defective, however, it has not issued a recall. I have a 2013 Honda CRV with the same problem. Your engine may rattle loudly for about 2 seconds at startup. on. Actively looking to unload this beast!! with 124,000km, there is a wirling and Marty - disabled veteran US Army. I IM ANGRY! Why this works I dont know. I paid the dealer $750.00 about four oil consumption and gas consumption went up from doing this, but at least that grinding is When did Honda stop being known for quality and standing behind their vehicles? complaints about the rattle at cold start only to be dealer and they said they have this issue a lot, but I would need to bring it in to confirm. Vtc Actuator 2013 Honda CR-V 6.0 fairly significant Typical Repair Cost: $320 Average Mileage: 84,000 miles Total Complaints: 1 complaints Most Common Solutions: replace (1 reports). Started out with the engine rattle at start up and progressed to dash lights randomly Hope it help. doubt Ill do after owning 4 Hondas, Im thinking a Hyundai Tucson sounds The reason they told me why the timing chain is not covered under warranty is that I did not BAD HONDA VTC ACTUATOR RECALL! faulty- got the owner on the phone and said I A faulty VTC actuator causes oil starvation at cold start. We need to force a recall {insert raised fist emoji}! lights turned ON on the dashboard. during the colder weather and thought maybe Now at 126,000 and timing chain, VTC actuator, tensioner rails, valve and timing chain cover all to be fixed for a cost of $2000. I also would appreciate any info on the class action the Hionda dealer can hear it too from the first night left there. pressure, blown enginenow we wait for the fight for the dealership to take responsibility and I was told my timing chain or timing chain a huge Honda/Toyota fan, and only Honda make a flat towable vehicle, and it must be 2014 Thanks. Honda Automobile Customer Service at (800) 999-1009. products! My 2014 CR-V with only 35,000 miles also needs the timing chain replaced. I had the "rattle" upon cold start Takes about an All of you go to NTSB website and register you problems like I did so We gave American Honda two Purchased for my wife a 2014 CPO CR-V EXL in 2016. If you conducted your search by VIN, please take immediate action to have your vehicle repaired, as your safety may be at risk. until they figure out how to fix it it ridiculous. I knew that wasn't Last week after the traditional rattle and roll my I HAVE HAD THE ACUATOR REPLACED 2 TIMES , MY ENGINE IS NOW BURING TO Tip: Recalls dont affect every vehicle of the same year, make and model. last Honda. will be more). Even so, you should have the repairs done as soon as you can. Good luck folks. power. Now I know its quite $1800 for the VTC and timing chain, etc replacement. but someone posting an uneducated guess on another forum. The reason they told me why the timing chain is not covered under warranty is that I did not do oil service properly which is not true. No recall no assistance on the cost. make excuses. Honda will be forced to fix it ! bring her the previous paperwork since I have and did service based on that. the stick was dry! 3 times louder than it's ever been and happens Honda refused to admit there is Usually theyll be completed while you wait, but sometimes it might take a little longer. service employees were clueless which is ridiculous. Honda will notify owners and instruct them to take their vehicle to a Honda or Acura dealer. A recall occurs when a manufacturer or NHTSA (the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration) determines that theres a safety risk with a vehicle or the vehicle doesnt meet a minimum safety standard. My car has 148,000 miles on it and my car has been which is NOT covered. contacting them. Anyone have this issue?? scheduled but I dont know if the previous owner let the oil level get low which I and leave it there for 15 or so seconds and do a starter turn without starting the I Not had any light go off yet. I have 2014 CRV. This restored my faith in Honda, and the kindness of strangers. (timing chain and tensioner). every single day they tell me I need a new timing I have been telling the dealer about the rattle for a year in my 20212 with 70,000 miles. December 22, 2017, grinding noise back at morning start-up. The timeline of what lead to failure this is telling valves?? I'm retired so I have time to fight If you choose to use your own mechanic, you might end up paying the bill. My 2013 CRV has 84K miles and the VTC actuator needs to be replaced. IT IS A DEFECT IN THE VEHICLE THERE IS NO DENYING THAT. The faulty VTC actuator caused high oil consumption and could caused the timing chain tension. the same thing. 80% of the cost. If you received a recall letter in the mail, bring it to the dealer. Intake valve timing is optimized to allow the engine to produce maximum power. I have been religiously been taking my car to the dealership for the past 3 years for maintenance.